Creadoor Signature Walls

Rebateless doors
vs. concealed-frame doors

Two frame systems, the same timber construction of the leaf. The whole difference sits in the frame: how it is built, when it is fitted, and what the closed leaf sits flush with.

Rebateless and concealed are not two orders of quality but two different systems of setting a door in a wall. The choice between them is usually made not on the look of the leaf but on the stage the project has reached.

In both, the leaf has no rebate — none of the lip overlapping the frame familiar from older doors. In both, the leaf is made in timber construction, so acoustics and stability are comparable. What differs is the frame.

The starting point

What rebateless means

In a conventional door the leaf has a rebate — a projecting lip that laps the frame and covers the gap. In a rebateless door there is no rebate: the closed leaf sits within the frame opening and lies flush with its architraves on one plane.

The effect is purely visual and very marked — a wall with its doors reads as one calm surface, with no projecting profiles. Concealed-frame doors are therefore rebateless doors too; the difference is that their frame is of aluminium and built into the wall.

The starting point

What a concealed frame means

In a concealed-frame door there is no visible frame and no architrave. The aluminium frame is built into the wall at shell stage, and once plastered it remains invisible — seen only across the thickness of the wall, with the door open.

The closed leaf sits flush with the plane of the wall. Painted in the colour of the wall the door disappears outright; finished in veneer or fabric it becomes a deliberate accent. It is the more minimal of the two systems.

It is not the leaf that decides the system. The frame decides.

Horizontal section through a timber rebateless frame with fixed and adjustable architraves, the seal and the frame opening

Fig. 1 — Section through a rebateless frame with architraves

The timber frame

How a rebateless frame is built

The rebateless frame is of timber and comprises a fixed part and an adjustable one, which take the wall from both sides. The fixed architrave is factory-fitted on one side and forms the reference for the whole reveal. The adjustable architrave extends on the other side of the wall, fitting the frame to the wall's real thickness — with no alteration and no cutting.

The frame takes the wall, and within its opening is concealed the seal answerable for quiet and for a soft close. The leaf enters the frame opening and lies flush with the architraves.

The frame with its architraves stands some 2 cm proud of the wall — it is the visible timber frame of the door.

The aluminium frame

How a concealed frame is built

The concealed frame is an aluminium profile built into the wall — set before plastering, most often at shell stage. Fitting after the screeds is possible, and even onto a finished floor: the frame must, however, be built into the opening and plastered, so the floor must then be thoroughly protected. The plaster runs up to the profile and finishes at it, so once the wall is finished there is neither architrave nor frame.

The profile is set in the masonry with installation foam, with render mesh prepared for the plaster — by which the junction of plaster and frame does not crack. Beside the leaf remains a thin edge (3 mm) or, in the edgeless version, nothing at all; the choice is the client's.

The closed leaf sits flush with the plane of the wall, not with an architrave. The hinges may be entirely concealed, and the leaf painted in wall paint or papered together with the wall — and then the door disappears.

The decision on concealed doors must be taken before plastering — afterwards, a frame cannot be added without cutting into the wall.

Concealed aluminium frame built into the wall — the leaf flush with the plaster

Fig. 2 — A concealed frame set in the masonry


Differences

Three things that truly divide them

The rest — finishes, models, collections, hardware — is the same in both systems. Three parameters decide.

RebatelessConcealed frame
Frame A timber frame with fixed and adjustable architraves, taking the wall from both sides. An aluminium profile built into the wall, with no architrave.
Installation At the end of the works — after plaster, paint and floors. No building work; possible in existing openings and during a renovation. Before plastering — most often at shell stage, but also after the screeds, and with good protection even onto a finished floor. The frame must be built in and plastered.
Meeting the wall The leaf sits flush with the architrave, and the frame with its architrave stands some 2 cm proud of the wall. The leaf sits flush with the plane of the wall, because the frame is built into the masonry.
Rebateless sits flush with the frame. Concealed sits flush with the wall.

Merits

What each gives you

Both systems lead to a calm, ordered wall. They do so differently, however, and enter the building programme differently. Below, the same points seen from both sides.

System 01Rebateless doors
System 02Concealed-frame doors
Fitted at the end of the worksThe doors come in after plaster, paint and floors — no building work, and no dirty stage in a finished interior.
Fitted at the start of the worksThe profile is built in and plastered before the walls are finished — best at shell stage, though also after the screeds, and onto a finished floor if it is carefully protected.
Possible in a renovationThey enter existing openings, with no cutting and no rebuilding of the reveal.
Decided at design stageThe opening must be planned and the frame allowed for before the walls are finished.
On one plane with the architraveThe leaf sits flush with the timber frame, which stands some 2 cm proud of the wall.
On one plane with the wallThe leaf sits flush with the plaster, because the frame is built into the masonry — no frame, no architrave.
A wall system with panellingPossible — the panelling brings the wall level with the architraves and lies flush with the leaf.
A wall system without panelling, or in veneerA smooth plastered wall already gives the effect of a wall system; veneer on the wall can additionally be brought flush with the leaf.
Fitting to the masonryAdjustable architraves take the wall's real thickness and its minor irregularities.
The 3 mm edge — an option, not a ruleAvailable in this system alone; it may be visible or not — and where it is, it protects the edge of the panelling in a wall system.
Visible hardware, simpler fittingThe hinges remain visible; fitting is quicker and less costly than in the concealed system.
No visible hardwareWith concealed hinges the wall is left without a single visible element — the door may be painted or papered together with it.
Beyond comparison

The last difference is no longer a parameter, yet it is often the most important — the character each system gives an interior.

A warmer, more classical detailA visible timber frame that may be veneered or lacquered together with the leaf — the door remains a recognisable element of the interior.
Minimalism at its fullestThe wall remains one unbroken plane — the door may disappear entirely, or become a deliberate accent.

Direction of opening

Two directions, both systems

Each system works in two directions: the leaf may sit flush on the side it opens towards (a door opening outward, “away from you”), or on the opposite side — and then it opens into the roomwhile sitting flush on the hallway side. In rebateless doors we call this second arrangement a reversible leaf; in the concealed frame, the reversible version of the profile.

The reversible variant is reached for when a single run of wall holds doors opening in different directions, and yet all must sit flush from the same side. Below, the same direction shown in both systems — first opening outward, then inward.

Direction 01 · Opening outward
3D model of a timber rebateless frame in masonry — an outward-opening leaf flush with the architraves
Rebateless frameA timber frame with architraves standing proud of the wall; the leaf sits flush with the architraves.
3D model of a concealed aluminium frame built into masonry — an outward-opening leaf flush with the plaster
Concealed frameAn aluminium profile built into the masonry, render mesh beneath the plaster; the leaf sits flush with the wall.
Direction 02 · Opening inward (reversible)
3D model of a rebateless frame in the reversible version — a leaf opening into the room
Rebateless frame · reverseAn inverted rebate on the leaf; the door opens inward and sits flush on the hallway side.
3D model of a concealed aluminium frame in the reversible version — a leaf opening into the room
Concealed frame · reverseAn inverted profile; the door opens inward and sits flush with the wall on the hallway side.
Seen from the hallway

The same wall, two settings of leaf

On the left, a leaf opening conventionally outward, towards the room. On the right, a reversible leaf, opening inward. From the hallway both read identically — only on opening does the difference in the geometry of the leaf appear.

Horizontal sections through both rebateless variants show exactly where that difference lies: in the shape of the leaf's edge, and in which side of the architrave it stops against.

A conventionally opening door and a reversible door compared — the leaves seen from the outer side

Fig. 3 — On the left a conventional leaf, on the right a reversible one


The wall system

Both systems enter one plane

A wall system — doors joined with panelling and wardrobes in one line — can be made in either system. They differ in the stage of installation, and in how the door looks from the other side: not from the flush side, but from within the room it opens into.

With a concealed frame there are two routes. The first: bring the door flush with a smooth plastered wall — which in itself gives the effect of a wall system, with nothing added. The second: lay veneer on the wall and bring it flush with the leaf, making a continuous plane of material.

If a uniform plane of door and wall is the aim and the budget is limited, the concealed framecomes out better. Once fitted, the door sits flush with the wall without any panelling bonded on — the smooth plane is made of plaster and leaf. In the rebateless system the same effect calls for panelling to bring the wall level with the projecting architraves.

The wall system · section through the frame
3D model of a wall system on a timber rebateless frame — veneered panelling meeting the architrave
A wall system on a rebateless frameThe panel brings the wall level with the architrave and lies flush with the leaf.
3D model of a wall system on a concealed aluminium frame made for wall facings
A wall system on a concealed frameA profile for facings: veneer on the wall meets the edge and lies flush with the leaf — or the plaster alone remains.

The 3 mm edge — when it shows

The edge is an option available in the concealed-frame system alone — rebateless doors do not have it. It may or may not be visible: depending on the finish it either disappears beneath the plaster or remains on the face of the wall.

Where it does show — most often in a wall system with veneered or lacquered panelling — it protects the edge of the panel from damage, which matters particularly in commercial work. Both variants are available: with the edge and without.


A guide

When to reach for which system

The decision is almost always settled by the stage of building, not by the choice of door model.

Choose rebateless when

The walls are already finished

Choose the concealed frame when

You are at shell stage


FAQ

Common questions

Do rebateless doors sit flush with the wall?

No. They sit flush with the architrave, and the frame with its architrave stands some 2 cm proud of the wall. Only concealed-frame doors bring the leaf fully flush with the plane of the wall.

At what stage is a concealed frame fitted?

Before plastering — most often at shell stage. Fitting after the screeds, and even onto a finished floor, is possible, but the frame must be built into the opening and plastered, so floor and interior must be well protected. In a wall already plastered it would mean cutting and making good the reveal again.

Does the leaf differ between the systems?

The construction of the leaf is of timber in both cases and does not depend on the type of frame. Only the geometry of the edge differs, matched to the profile.

Are the finishes and collections available in both systems?

Yes. Veneer, lacquer, classical routing and bespoke coverings, and the Geometria and Element collections alike, are available in rebateless doors and in the concealed frame.

A considered choice

The stage of building first, then the detail

If the walls are already finished, there is one choice: rebateless. If the decision falls at design stage and the door is to disappear into the wall — the concealed frame. Everything else, from model to finish, can be settled later.

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